The BNP's Martin Wingfield, editor of their paper Voice of Freedom, often remarks that there is currently a 'quiet revolution' to describe a shift in public support toward the BNP.
If the latest local election results are anything to go by, it's currently proceeding very quietly indeed.
For a second year in a row the BNP have been met with disappointment in many areas. They managed to gain 10 council seats across the country, mainly in areas where they have done well previously, such as Stoke, but failed to make breakthroughs in areas like Wrexham, Southend and Basildon.
These gains were less than the BNP were expecting. The figure being quoted in the media is that they were expecting to win 40 seats but this what the BNP's legal 'expert' and idiot Lee Barnes predicted, not the party itself which has avoided the mistake it made last year of wildly inaccurate predictions of the number of seats it would win.
The results are mixed, with some encouraging signs and some warnings for the future. They got a lot of strong set of second places in Thurrock and their vote showed no signs of being damaged by the supposed 'split' in the party last December.
Since there's only room for one fascist party in Britain, and the BNP have the media profile and name recognition in a lot of areas, it's been business as usual for Griffin's lot and an abrupt decline into obscurity for the 'Voice of (Spare) Change'.
That said, in a lot of areas where the BNP have previously been strong, such as Burnley, Sandwell and Dudley, their vote has declined three years in a row. They're not invincible.
The fact that their modest gains, coupled with defeat in several seats they were defending, have co-incided with the worst results for the Labour Party in 40 years is significant. With the Labour Party in a state of collapse across much of the country and having lost hundreds of council seats, the BNP should have done a lot better.
Since the BNP has tried to recreate itself almost as an external pressure group on the Labour Party, calling on people to vote BNP purely because it is a protest against the mainstream political parties and will result in the government giving local areas more funding, it is important they have failed to capitalise on this.
In London the results have been mixed as well. While it is a step forward for them that Richard Barnbrook won a seat on the Greater London Assembly it was a close run thing, with the BNP winning the seat by 0.3% of the vote when they had expected to win two or three assembly seats. This is an increase of 0.6% on their previous result, not a lot to show for four years campaigning which included the victories in Barking and Dagenham.
Furthermore, their vote in their share of the vote in the Mayoral vote actually decreased during the same period, from 3% to 2.8%.
What was surprising in London was the strong showing of the near moribund National Front who won thousands of votes in the constituencies they were standing in, despite being a party of unreconstructed neo-Nazis. This is the complete opposite of the numbers they've been able to put out on the streets recently, with 17 showing up for a march in South London a couple of weeks ago, so the NF have put in zero effort to achieve this result.
In Cumbria, the results of the local elections were less ambiguous, the BNP performance was disappointing, well it was encouraging for us.
I've stuck up a full analysis of the local results on the Maryport Against Racism site so there's no need to repeat that here, except to say that results must have been very disappointing to an organisation that promised they were going to win council seats this time round.
In Carlisle, a huge BNP campaign involving national mobilisations and lots of news coverage has achieved little noticeable result with the BNP vote being roughly the same as last year, even dropping in some wards.
The BNP branch in Barrow is older than the one in Carlisle but had been noticeably less successful.
I would attribute this to the presence of the Socialist People's Party, a group which originated when four Labour councillors were kicked out for opposing cuts in housing benefits in the mid-1990's. The BNP stood against them this year having long focused on attacking the group, they tried to claim that one of their councillors was illegally holding office because he was born in Iran, and were humiliated at the result as the socialists won all three seats in the ward.
In contrast, after a promising start the socialist left in Carlisle has largely collapsed. In 2000 the Socialist Party stood in their first election in the city and got an impressive 24.5% of the vote, 305 votes. Since the group collapsed in Carlisle for a variety of reasons shortly afterwards there has been nothing since. Instead, the BNP have moved in to fill the vacuum left by rising hostility to mainstream politics.
As I've mentioned elsewhere, the rise of the BNP is punishment for the continued failures of the left.
While last year's results were a disaster and this year's results a disappointment it remains the case that the BNP can win respectable results across the country.
I said at this time last year, there's no need to be complacent. We've got the European elections coming up next year and they're contested on proportional representation with 5% of the vote in massive constituencies needed to win a seat in the European Parliament.
In 2004 Nick Griffin missed out on a seat for the Northwest constituency primarily because their vote in Cumbria was so much lower than elsewhere. They won't make the same mistake again and will push hard to get the vote out in Cumbria.
When it comes to anti-fascism, there are no prizes for coming second.
Saturday, May 03, 2008
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LAST warning, you have talking to these creatures from the left too much.
Q-1 why
-2 are you trying to get in bed with them?
-3 we have lot of reports of you meeting them "secret squirrel"?
-4 we know you a decent lad but were are you going with this? we have the photographic proof?
-5 as of now you will be on our "to watch list"
And the fash go barking mad...
Better watch out, Duncan, they've got you on their "watch list." They will watch your blog and make inane comments under silly pseudonyms. You have been warned!
Hey Duncan,
Who ever knew that the All Seeing Eye as special needs?
Nice use of question marks, and a thorough grasp of grammar to boot!
But i am going to start calling you 'secret squirrel'
Mega LOLZ
Oh dear, I've been warned. Again.
Let me guess, this time you *really* mean business?
The idea that the BNP would win 2 or 3 seats on the GLA was manufactured by the misleadingly-named "anti-fascist" (sic) movement in Britain. This was done for several reasons:
1. To panic people into voting for a "mainstream" party.
2. So that when the BNP won just one seat, the "anti-fascists" (sic) could claim a victory - however hollow it may be.
3. To demoralize BNP sympathisers/supporters who think that winning "just one seat" on the GLA is a disappointment; in realty however, it would have taken something extraordinary to win 2 or 3 seats in London.
Duncan Money and his ilk like to believe that the BNP won just one seat because of the work of "anti-fascists" (sic). However, the BNP won a seat on the GLA notwithstanding all of the underhand and anti-democratic measures meted out to them by State and Establishment stooges.
plucking hell dunc, the whole seeing blind eye.
looks like you have a hate fan form your commie buddies m8.
Well, long time no see dunc, hows things going for you ?
thought i might just pop in and see how you are doing.
bill.p
couple of sticky keys m8, not speeeeelin misteaks.
just 1 Q. Why have you put a boyish pic on?
bill.p
couple of sticky keys m8, not speeeeelin misteaks.
just 1 Q. Why have you put a boyish pic on?
bill.p
unreconstructed neo-nazi,
The idea that the BNP would win 2 or 3 seats on the GLA was manufactured by the misleadingly-named "anti-fascist" (sic) movement in Britain.
Wrong.
Lee Barnes (on his blog):
I expect three BNP officials to be elected in London.
http://leejohnbarnes.blogspot.com/2008/05/my-forecast.html
Now run along, idiot.
bill,
Good to hear from you bill, I'm alright, how about yourself? I was dead pleased with the election results in Carlisle.
Speaking of Carlisle, you weren't with our mate Clive the other day out in Carlisle filming and taking pictures of kids leafleting for Carlisle Against Racism were you?
There's laws against that you know.
looks like you have a hate fan form your commie buddies m8.
Read the comment again bill, it's another one of my fans from the far right sending me a really scary warning.
Why have you put a boyish pic on?
I do look young in that pic, but the other one I had up was from when I was 17 so I thought it was time I changed it.
Maybe you should quote the full sentence, Duncan - what Barnes (LLB Hons)actually said was:
"If the plans we have in place to prevent electoral fraud via the spoiling of ballot boxes works then I expect three BNP officials to be elected in London. If their is fraud then only Richard will get elected."
With 400,000 spoiled papers and broken seals on boxes, it's clear fraud of some degree took place during the elections of people to the GLA.
ahh, dunc , your"e a good boy at heart m8.Misled of course.There"s no law on taking pics of buildings or roads m8.If some fat ginger bird , and i use the term bird rather loosely,walks up the road unless its your bit on the side m8!
I"m doing great Dunc. Yeah i belive you , it is someone from the right, i think, must have a crush on you with that new pic, was that what it was designed for, just a thought!
Anyway couldn"t sleep so i thought what"s happening on the net, lol.
I suppose the all seeing eye is just a prick, a small one at that m8, might be new to the hitler worshiping gang of nutzies, but we do change them into something useful though, you know, direct their mis-spent energy into something useful.
Well its nearly that time of year to go out flying over the fells m8, if i spot you on the ground i will have the pleasure of cooling you down m8, i know you would like that off a friend, ya,know when you were advising the nutzies to go walking in shorts a t-shirts round the fells in the snow, bloody hell Dunc, you could of got someone killed!! You know how stupid we are m8!!!
well all the best Dunc and i hope to see you on a hill some where so i can take a good long leak over your head to cool you down. I know, i know, thank me later.
tree rat bill.p
unreconstructed neo-nazi,
Nice attempt at a diversion there.
However, you said that the idea the BNP would win 2 or 3 seats was made up by anti-fascists, since I've shown it wasn't, it was predicted by Lee Barnes, you've not so subtly changed your argument.
Can't be nice being proved wrong by your own side but never mind.
bill,
You're right, there isn't a law against taking pictures of roads and buildings.
But, there is a definitely a law against taking pictures of young teenagers then posting them up on the internet. In fact, there's a name for people who do that you know.
Those pictures have now gone up on Redwatch and your mates in Carlisle BNP are helpfully putting names to faces and peoples workplace details up on Youtube.
You seem like a decent bloke bill, with a few strange ideas of course, but is this what you got into politics for, to hassle teenagers and stick peoples names and photos up online?
Not my doing Duncan, if clive put them on his blogg and someone copied them onto redwatch, there"s not a lot i can do m8. I think you know i would never do that , no matter what our political differences are , but they are happy enough to put clives mug all over the place m8.
I don"t know who runs redwatch but i"ll ask clive to take the pic of the teenager off his blogg, i can only ask m8.
Was whatever vote the BNP received, connected to protest against Labor? Other UK blogs say that.
"Nice attempt at a diversion there."
It wasn't an attempt at diversion -I was merely pointing out that the quote you provided was, in fact, part of a longer sentence, and that that sentence contextualized what Mr Barnes (LLB Hons) said.
"However, you said that the idea the BNP would win 2 or 3 seats was made up by anti-fascists, since I've shown it wasn't..."
But you haven't shown that it wasn't, have you?
Whether or not Mr Barnes said what he said, this doesn't mean that this was a fabrication of anti-fascists; indeed, he could have been bought into what the anti-fascists said and merely parroted such utterances.
You've obfuscated the issue by saying:
"it was predicted by Lee Barnes, you've not so subtly changed your argument."
Lee Barnes' prediction was conditional and qualified - factors you deliberately obviated when you quoted him.
The prediction of other entities wasn't qualified; not least in the same way Lee Barnes (LLB Hons) qualified his statement.
In essence, I haven't changed my argument - I was merely responding to the views you disseminated in your last post.
We were having a bit of a ponder about the BNP results in the pub after branch the other night. Though the Tories are emphatically not playing the race card in the same way Thatcher did, could BNP support begin to melt away as the centre right get closer to power. Will we on the far left be the benefit of discontent should the Tories crawl back in?
The BNP did quite well in County Durham, especially in Tudhoe where they got over 1,000 votes just 129 votes off winning a council seat.
I'm glad to see Cumbria isn't voting BNP but I'm slightly concerned that just across the A66 it's a different picture.
A Very Public Sociologist - that's a very good question. There's no doubt that the Tory Party's shift to the Right in the 1979 General Election demolished the National Front. The question is, considering the Tory Party is far from the Right-wing entity it was in the early 1980's, can the Left rely on a Tory Government to revive our fortunes and demolish the BNP at the same time?
The political situation now is far from what it was in 1979, but whatever the BNP says and does, so long as it still has Collett and Hannam on board, they are damaged goods.
As for the first reply to this post, maybe Duncan is more intelligent than me and can see some meaning in what this guy is saying, but I cant. Proof if nothing else that there are some real Right-wing nutters out there. All I know is that the All Seeing Eye is a Freemasonic symbol and allegedly that of the modern Illuminati. I wouldn't worry about this "watch list" too much Duncan - all due respect, but your no John or Robert Kennedy, so I don't think you should take these threats too seriously, the Illuminati aren't out to get you yet:)
Leigh said:
"the Tory Party is far from the Right-wing entity it was in the early 1980's".
Oh really? What evidence, bar spin, do you have to support this?
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